Homosexuality is unnatural
Imagine you were the opposite sex. Would you be attracted to men or women?
Your head reasons that you that would remain the same sexuality as you are now, and fancy the opposite gender as you do now... quite unnatural! but your heart still adores the same gender as you do now, but that would change your sexuality... quite unnatural!
I guess the results are only truly acceptable if you are bisexual!
I've heard the statement that "Homosexuality is unnatural" by many anti-gays, but like most throw-away lines, it's rarely examined further. Has it never occurred to anti-gays that homosexuals find heterosexuality equally unnatural?
It does seem that if you were the opposite sex, your desires would equally appear unnatural.
Or course the argument is somewhat contrived. Polyester is unnatural, but anti-gays don't shun clothes made from it. Modern medicine is unnatural and the same point applies.
Perhaps we could argue that being anti-gay is unnatural, but then again the diversity of mankind, both good and bad, is as natural as the clouds in the sky.
Surely what people mean by unnatural, is something they don't naturally like. But that's no reason to dislike the person. I don't like tobacco and the fact that it kills hundreds of thousands of people each year. But I have nothing against tobacconists.
Incidentally, the picture refers to the cockney expression, "he's as queer as a clockwork orange", which refers to someone's unusualness, rather than being gay.
11 Comments:
DickyBird:
Cool comments, but a couple of thoughts.
First: Modern medicine can trace its roots back to paleolithic man. Since the shamans of a 100,000 or so years ago used local flora for their herbal remedies, we think of that as natual, but in reality, modern phmacology is based on understanding how the herbal remedies worked and building on them. Thus I think of modern medicine as just as natural as a cro-magnan shaman's herbal treatments.
Second Our understanding of the roots or our sexuality has led to some fascinating finds. One of these says there is a gene that directs us to hetero- or homo-sexuality. Which would make our sexual preference a genetic choice and not a conscious decision.
Finally, I think that most anti-gay thinking comes from immature minds who cannot reconcile their natural hetrosexual revusion to gay sexual practices. I myself have realized that two men loving each other is a good thing as long as neither one is me. To that end I have taken to recognizing and appreciating all the great things that come forth from human capability whether gay or straight and it has opened a whole new world to me.
Procreation is what makes heterosexuality qualify as natural, being unable to procreate is what qualifies homosexuality as being unnatural. After all, procreation is really the only reason we exist.
Thanks johns. Good point about the medicine. I guess I was thinking that if you give someone a pill, then nature isn't taking its course. Of a homeopathic approach arguably works with nature.
If does indeed seem that genes define our sexuality. I wonder if they define people's bigotry too?
Thanks PiKKeL WeeZeL. Procreation is arguable only one aspect of someone's sexuality.
Children are unable to procreate, and are often unware of their sexuality until older. Yet this is a natural development.
Many couples choose contraception to prevent procreation; unnatural, certainly, but not the same as homosexuality.
cool stuff.... comments and all.
Natural is usually defined as occuring in nature. Considering that there are species other than humans which form homosexual bonds, including the Bonobo apes with whom we share 99% of our DNA and which engage in sex as a form of bonding typical to grooming, how then, is it unnatural?
As far as unnatural that's an argument that can lead you anywhere, modern culture could be said unnatural, medicine, women with the vote, flying etc etc etc you can make it fit practically any agenda.
I'm really not sure whether society has come far enough to distinguish between sexual morals and mores, if indeed there is a difference.
Note that society and academics in the past considered masturbation as a sign of metal illness or that women were non-sexual beings and any aberration was a sign of metal illness. If past societies are capable of social/institutional bias that contaminated their research how can we say modern society is immune to such bias?
There have been studies showing it little more than personal disgust influencing our moral judgments, which can be totally arbitrary. As was shown when people were asked it two consenting adults had consenting incest sex for pleasure-not procreation- what was wrong with that?
Apart from their emotional reaction they could find no substantive reason to justify their reaction. In my opinion modern western society still haven’t past it’s hang-up with disgust.
Further on the natural/unnatural theme, monogamy in relationships is very rarely seen in nature, yet it is exactly what is prescribed of us in (Christian) marriage. Is this unnatural?
i don't think animals should be compared to people. the argument is inherently weak considering humans are the only species able to contemplate our place in the universe. there are massive differences. also homosexuality in nature doesn't make it natural or inherently good or evil. it is just a quality of the world in which we live. i think it is even arguable that nothing is unnatural because everything was made of real substances (nothing magical). the often repeated arguments are weak and invalid in my viewpoint. everyone can make their own decision but one shouldn't force one's way of life upon another. personally i believe the homosexuality is icky.
there are way to many bad arguments about this issue. everyone should have equality but that doesn't mean it is either good or bad.
^^ i was getting into the Freudian philosophy if you couldn't tell because morals are apparently some we learn as a device of control by those in power. then there could be no rules on society and all that stuff. but we do impose restrictions upon ourselves and our actions have consequences.
Why is homosexuality different to any other paraphilia?
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